Ben Max of Gotham Gazette and Jarrett Murphy from City Limits devote their weekly WBAI show to discussing the current state of efforts to stabilize NYCHA with interim chairwoman Kathryn Garcia and reviewing the historical lessons from London’s 1990s public-housing “regeneration” scheme with Sarah Watson of the Citizens Housing and Planning Council.

The Citizens Housing and Planning Council recently brought over from London a panel of people who lived through the experience of what happened next: The mid-1990s decision to permit councils to pursue, in active concert with their tenants, one of a number of new approaches to running their housing, from splitting their portfolio up, to handing it off to private control or management, to putting tenants in charge.

Sarah Watson, CHPC’s deputy director and a veteran of housing work in the UK, joined WBAI’s Max & Murphy to discuss London’s approach.